Nuffnang Blogopolis, the good and the bad #nnb2011

by Veronica on August 2, 2011

in Blogging

I attended Nuffnang’s Blogopolis this weekend and I have come home with some thoughts that need working out in my mind, so LUCKY YOU, you get to read all about it.

The bad:

  • There was no Welcome to Country. It doesn’t take a lot of time or effort to acknowledge the traditional owners of the land and I was a little stunned to realise it had been left out. I tweeted it and got a few retweets, so I wasn’t the only one who thought it was poor form to have been forgotten.
  • I knew a lot of the content being covered and while there were great points spoken about, I struggled to keep my attention on all of the panelists, all of the time. I found myself straining to hear some speakers, especially towards the end and I’m not certain if that was an audio issue on the conference’s part, or a brain shut down on mine.
  • It got really hot and airless at the front of the room and I had a hard time with that. I didn’t go back to my table after lunch, instead electing to sit up the back with my notepad and listen from there. The chairs were more comfortable there as well and I was able to sit more easily.
  • My painkillers kicked in a bit before lunchtime and I spun out. With the heat from the room and the headspin, I worried I was going to pass out or vomit. I didn’t do either of these things (bonus!), but I also think that my tweets probably stopped making sense.
  • Working with Brands, the session, made me incredibly grumpy. I’m not entirely sure what they thought they would achieve by telling bloggers to basically suck it up, be happy they were working with a brand and bend over backwards (or forwards) and do whatever it took to keep the client happy, but I know damn well that if I had to jump through the hoops that the Agency was talking about, I wouldn’t feel nearly as well disposed towards the brand at the end of it. I finished that session with a whole bunch of notes to take back to my sponsors on things NOT to do. So maybe it was worthwhile for that.
  • There was a lot of anti-Blogger sentiment expressed by speakers. I love wordpress and I want everyone to convert to it, but it was overt enough to even make me cringe. You don’t gain anything by putting 50% of the audience off-side at the beginning by implying that the platform they use is lesser. Being on Blogger doesn’t mean that a blogger is of less quality than their peers who are using self-hosted wordpress. It just means that the blogger has different priorities. And that is okay.

Logistical issues:

  • The line for tea and coffee at morning tea was ridiculous and I don’t think the line was even half way through when the break finished. I desperately wanted a cup of tea, but took one look at the line and didn’t bother. I eventually got a cup of tea in the afternoon during the panels and I’m glad I did, the tea was excellent.
  • Also, and this is sort of petty, but the cupcakes were ridiculously dry. The icing was nice however.
  • The allocated seating worked well, for me, but only because I lucked out and had a decent table. I didn’t hear the same thing from everyone and so for some people, the allocated seating didn’t work. I think a better way to do it may have been allocated seating until lunch and then allowing people to move.

The Good:

  • Michael Aulia of Craving Tech made me pick up my pen and take notes of what he was saying. His suggestions for speeding up a website were exactly what I needed to be hearing and so I thank him for that. I’m researching and implementing some new plugins as I type.
  • Darren Rowse of Problogger is a fantastic public speaker and I took notes through his entire speech, just so that I could report back for a few people who weren’t there. I like that he is platform agnostic and his line about “a small group of raving fans being better” than a bunch of traffic who is a bit meh resonated with me. I think that what he had to say made a lot of sense to everyone, regardless of niche.
  • The day was run to a military tight schedule and we didn’t run overtime, or end up cutting anything short. I thought the organisation that Nuffnang had done was incredibly professional and they did a great job keeping everything on track.
  • It’s hard to run a conference when you have a range of bloggers attending. Different niches and people who have just started blogging, right up to people who have been doing this for years. Some things didn’t apply to me, but I think there was probably something for everyone in the program.
  • I got to hang out with my friends, and I met some fantastic new people, whose blogs I will be visiting and familiarising myself with over the next few weeks. For me, this is always the best bit of any blogging get together.

Finally, I would like to thank Kellogg’s for sponsoring me to attend this weekend and especially Karina from DEC Communications who was instrumental in getting everything done. Also Louisa at Brand Meets Blog for introducing us!

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Kelley @ magnetoboldtoo August 2, 2011 at 12:01 pm

I need your notes. Heh.

I spent the majority of the time up the back with the babies totally overwhelmed by it all.

LOVED being with you.

x

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 12:07 pm

I have my notes typed up, if you want me to send them through?

Darren Rowse August 2, 2011 at 12:04 pm

thanks for your kind words – I hope that despite a lot of it not being new that you got a lot from the day. For me it was fun and inspiring just to see so many great bloggers in the one room.

Great post!

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 12:06 pm

I did get a lot from the day and your talk in particular – I took a lot of notes and really enjoyed what you were saying. It was a lot of fun and anything that gathers bloggers in one place and lets me pick everyone’s brains and laugh that much gets a plus in my book.

Maria Tedeschi August 2, 2011 at 12:05 pm

Hi Veronica,

So glad DEC Communications were able to help you out. I went to uni with the MD Agata Kenna and the CEO Michael Henderson. We still keep in contact. Such a small world.

I would have liked powerpoints under the table. I was worried my laptop was going to die.

Love & stuff
Mrs M
(Mum’s Word)

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 12:08 pm

I think everyone would have appreciated more powerpoints! I had my new tablet, that has an excellent battery life, so I was one of the very few lucky ones. A few people up the back were up there specifically to charge their computers.

Megan @ Writing Out Loud August 2, 2011 at 12:25 pm

I got very ranty about the anti-Blogger talk! and was much happier when it got to the talk of content – that matters to me far more than which platform people ‘should’ have.

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 1:18 pm

Yes, me too. Platform, at the end of the day, is nothing more than bells and whistles. It’s the person blogging who counts.

Melissa August 2, 2011 at 12:59 pm

I really think, that from reading now MOST of the Blogopolis wrap ups, that I’m going to make my next post on the Wordpress Vs Blogger thing. I use Blogger. I admit. I’m not that tech savvy. I started blogging on Blogger because it was by far the easiest platform for people like me.

But 3 and a half years in, I’m not feeling any problem with Blogger. I’m not sure what I’m missing. And I’ve heard a LOT of talk about the WP v Blogger thing at the conference, it really DID put a lot of people off side.

I wasn’t there, but based on all my readings, my favourite (or most useful for me) point was one of Darren’s. About looking after the readers I have, instead of striving for a huge audience of followers who don’t engage. Try to be more engaged with the ones I have. It’s something I’m actively working on, commenting, retweeting etc as much as I can. Getting to know them better, not just so they’ll follow me (because they already are, if that makes sense) but because I WANT to build those relationships.

Great post, V. I was very keen to hear your take on the conference.

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 1:19 pm

I started on blogger and we broke up 4 months in. It’s about personal choice really.

Darren was excellent, truly.

Torkona August 2, 2011 at 12:59 pm

Nice to hear a point of view from the day. would have loved to seen the problogger in action. I envy public speakers terribly..

thanks for sharing veronica!

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 1:21 pm

Problogger was great, I think a lot of people went to see him speak!

Jayne August 2, 2011 at 1:12 pm

Sounds like a great conference 🙂

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 1:22 pm

It was good fun! Traipsing all over Melbourne with friends was, of course, the best bit.

Sharnee August 2, 2011 at 1:15 pm

I agree with everything you said!

(honestly, the working with brands section just made me want to pull my hair out)

Also, for some reason I thought of this (which I read ages ago, and had to dig up just now): http://boingboing.net/2008/03/04/howto-earn-an-artist.html < re: a small group of raving fans being powerful. It's not exactly the same but it's in a similar vein.

I looked into the WP plugins for speeding up the site but was a bit scared to see that it involved some DNS changes and would make normal FTP access not possible without some changes to the URL so I decided than rather than breaking my site I would research it before going ahead with it.

Good to meet you (ever-so briefly!)

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 1:25 pm

I like that article you linked! And agree, it is about true fans, more than about traffic.

I looked into cloud flare and went OMG cannot do this – but I’m having good luck with the Cache plugin mentioned and with Smush it. They’re the ones that aren’t scary.

Tiff August 2, 2011 at 1:58 pm

It sounds as though it was good, despite the bad bits.

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 4:27 pm

The people who attended made it good for me. It was a marketing campaign for Nuffnang however, not a bloggers conference exactly. Which isn’t a bad thing, it’s just different to what a lot of people were hoping for I think.
xxx

Nathalie August 2, 2011 at 2:04 pm

Veronica great post, enjoyed meeting you albeit briefly. I was one of the ones stuck down the back and would have liked a table change after lunch, if only to meet other bloggers. I did learn a lot, may be too much, which has my head spinning. I tried the Cloud flare today and gave up, far too tecehnical for me. So I’ll be focusing on my passion of child behaviour, and won’t sell my soul to brands.
I am am very-happy with my loyal following over on FB. Nx

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 4:28 pm

You and your bag of chocolate seriously saved my sanity I think! I needed the chocolate. It would have been nice to talk to you more.

I tried Cloud flare too and gave up. Too scary for me.

katepickle August 2, 2011 at 2:07 pm

Great run down… I agree with almost every point.

I loved Darren, couldn’t believe people were silly enough to offend half the bloggers there by dissing blogspot, and the cup cakes were terrible! LOL
If nothing else, I was really inspired to be around so many bloggers and the buzz is still there, I just hope I can do something productive with it. Oh and if you are sharing your notes…. would love a copy! LOL

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 4:29 pm

I had good fun chatting to you during the conference. I always love being around so many people who “get” what I do, and for me, that makes it worthwhile to attend. That and listening to some of the speakers.

Deb August 2, 2011 at 2:10 pm

Interesting wrap up. As someone who wasn’t there I may be completely off base, but the things I’m reading are confirming I made the right decision not to go. Apart from the fact that it would be at least 3 days of travel for me and extremely expensive! (ABC took 4 days travel due to flooding.)

I’d like to know what these conferences are trying to achieve. If it’s networking, great. If it’s meeting brands and PR, fine. But my reading is they are implying they have an educational agenda, ie helping people learn to be ‘better’ bloggers. And the way they are going about that is, from what I’ve seen, ineffective.

If you want to do something educational, talk to some educational professionals. There are amazing things happening these days with e-conferences, unconferences, teach-meets, 1-1 conferencing, techie brekkies and all sorts of other ways to support people to develop. It seems ironic that blogging is behind in these.

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 4:32 pm

I think that I’m lucky it was in Melbourne, AND I got a full sponsorship, so it didn’t cost me anything to attend (even though it did – because I’m being reimbursed what I spent, so I needed to have the money first – yay for tax time) and it cost me less than someone coming further than I did.

I agree though, it was definitely a marketing campaign run by Nuffnang, for Nuffnang, which is fine and doesn’t bother me, but I was hoping to get a little more out of it.

Also, this might sound petty, but I’m a little sick of seeing the same speakers, over and over.

Super Sarah August 2, 2011 at 2:21 pm

I have heard lots of similar opinions about the “working with brands” section… I think its appalling to expect bloggers to be grateful for a relationship with a brand, it should be a mutually beneficial situation with equal respect. I have come up against this problem a lot recently which is partly to blame for my hissy fit where I threw the dummy and declared myself a “non-blogger blogger” on my blog recently! I am sad to have missed seeing all my blogging friends this weekend but its just made me even more excited for the next conference, I am saving up so I can enjoy a fabulous weekend away!

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 4:33 pm

I think it is absolutely appalling too, to expect us to just be grateful. A good brand relationship works on both sides and everyone wins – not just the brand. I am definitely not anti working with brands, but I am anti bloggers being taken for granted, or being treated as less than intelligent.

I’m sad to have missed you too, but next time! Definitely!

Caz August 2, 2011 at 2:37 pm

So glad to hear you got a good table!! Some interesting points you have here. Agreed on the PR stuff – sounded very much like a one way street. So nice to meet you again Veronica. Caz.

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 4:36 pm

I got a great table 😛 hehehehe. It was lovely to meet you again too and if next time they have super comfy chairs, it will be easier to stay where I’m put. Heh.

Claireyh August 2, 2011 at 3:01 pm

It is petty, but they were the worst cupcakes ever known to Melbourne. I am not a fussy eater but they were shocking.

I tuned out with the PRpeople speaking and then a bit more when a person said they would write for NFPs for only 500 or so! Gee,so kind!

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 4:37 pm

I feel pretty terrible complaining, but yeah, they were bad!

I missed the people talking about how much to charge/how much they would write for. Want to fill me in?

Liz August 2, 2011 at 6:54 pm

Someone mentioned they get between $500 & $2000 for sponsored posts. What an expectation to be sending to new bloggers, eh? If that’s what they’re *receiving* I’d hate to see what the PR agency is actually being charged for it.

Was lovely to meet you, glad to finally do so in Melbourne!

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 7:07 pm

WOW. Seriously? That seems excessive to me, but I’m not the one getting that kind of money paid to me. I’m not a new blogger, but I’ve got no idea how they would actually be paid that.

It was lovely to meet you too. I had so so much fun.

Glowless August 2, 2011 at 5:17 pm

Those cupcakes were terrible. I couldn’t figure out if they were just over baked by 10 minutes or three days old. Luckily the choc mousse in the afternoon was the saving grace.
The whole day was very Wordpress heavy and it did put me off. I felt like a naughty child being told off for using Blogger. Being told to write like a journalist and not swear was interesting; I’m pretty sure the readers that I do have are there because of how I speak, so if I started speaking like a journo, particularly just for sponsored posts, I’m sure they’d all bugger off. The whole power of blogs as advertising mediums is that we are akin to word of mouth – if it doesn’t sound like it’s coming from my mouth, what is the point?

Overall, I thought it was a fantastic day, I particularly liked ProBlogger and Mr Gadget.

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 5:25 pm

I thought 3 days old. Agree too though, the chocolate mousse was divine.

I don’t think you were the only one to feel like a naughty blogger using child, I was getting the same feel from some of my friends.

I HATED being told that no swearing, journalistic tone, etc, was the way to go. Like you said, people read bloggers for the person behind them, the voice and the opinions. If you change yourself in order to work with brands, you won’t have an audience and then you’re pretty much buggered both ways.

Liz August 2, 2011 at 6:57 pm

Yes yes yes to the no swearing. I don’t swear much on my blog, but really, to say that one swear word and you get put on a list for not being approached is a bit unrealistic!

Same for the journalistic tone. Isn’t some of the point that we are *different* from journalists because we have our own style and you connect with the person behind the writing?

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 7:05 pm

Yes, I thought that the point was that we were different to journalists and had our own voice. I know that I would lose readers if I stopped being myself, so what would be the point?

Hear Mum Roar August 2, 2011 at 5:25 pm

I think if I were there and heard those attitudes about working with brands I may have walked out! i don’t think they realise hey, we can go without if need be!

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 5:26 pm

I got very twitchy and so did a few of us up the back. There may have been violently whispered words going on. And lots of jotted notes saying NO NO NO WRONG OMGWTF?

Hear Mum Roar August 2, 2011 at 5:33 pm

Yeah, well it’s a very tetchy subject for me after what happened with the Nuffnang sponsored post I did with Mattel. I didn’t feel that Nuffnang looked after me well AT ALL in light of what happened, and both Mattel and Nuffnang went on to insult me further afterward. Of course, I don’t get offered anything from Mattel anymore, having spoken up about it on my blog, and of course I wouldn’t if I was asked to anyway. No, I will NOT bend over backwards to be treated like shit by anyone.

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 5:38 pm

I think I missed what happened?

Hear Mum Roar August 2, 2011 at 5:44 pm

I’ll email you a link:)

Nicole Hastings August 2, 2011 at 5:27 pm

Hi Veronica,
Could you tell me the plug ins they recommended? Hope I can go to one maybe next year!

Veronica August 2, 2011 at 5:40 pm

Of course!

W3 Total Cache for caching,

Cloudflare for a content delivery network (although I signed up, panicked and backed away slowly),

Smush It for image compression, without losing image quality.

I’ve also got notes about Windows Live Writer, Click Bump SEO and Wise Stamp, but he had run out of time so I don’t know why they’re good and recommended and I think they’re tools rather than plugins. I will be researching them this week.

Marita August 2, 2011 at 6:39 pm

Great recap.

Highlight of the weekend was definitely meeting my blogging friends 🙂

Fiona August 2, 2011 at 10:11 pm

so, how long til the wedding?

Bush Babe August 2, 2011 at 10:48 pm

Interesting stuff… of course every single blog conference I hear about, I go “Gee that sounds interesting, must go to one of those” and then I realise the logisitics and the fact I actually don’t make money from my blog to reimburse myself (and I couldn’t bear someone/company having some sort of say over what I say or where I go)… and I don’t. Perhaps if they have a ‘proper’ one in Brizzy one day? (But only if they promise decent cupcakes – otherwise the deal is off again!)
🙂
BB

Kellie @ Three Li'l Princesses August 3, 2011 at 8:29 am

Really love that you’ve provided a balanced view, Veronica. Great read. And it seems you coped pretty well, despite all your earlier fears. So glad to hear.
Would love to know what you took from MIchael and Darren’s speeches. Maybe a blog post? 🙂

Michael Aulia @CravingTech.com August 3, 2011 at 5:06 pm

Hi Kellie, I posted my slides and also a few more info on a blog post: http://www.cravingtech.com/nuffnang-blogopolis-2011-tools-of-the-trade-slides-and-more-info-2.html as I couldn’t cover all the topics in detail during my session

Though I still want to peek at Veronica’s notes to see what she wrote 🙂

Kristy Vallely August 3, 2011 at 2:19 pm

I absolutely LOVE your crystal clear take on things… Felt like I was there.. Good on you for stating the facts! – the good and the bad…

Bronnie August 3, 2011 at 7:49 pm

I love your notes.
I’ve been a journalist and I don’t want to be anymore. One of the reasons I blog is that I can write whatever the hell I want, in the style that I want, with the word count that feels right to me.
Advertising/sponsorship isn’t my main aim, but if I can get some for being me, that would be my ideal.
Otherwise I’ll go back to magazine writing, which is being given a brief, a word count, an angle. Don’t really want to do that.
The cupcakes were crap. The availability of loos was, ahem, crap for the ladies. One of the ladies loos was out of order. By the time we all got to the loos (Mummy Bladders many of us) there was no food left (except for the shitty cupcakes.)
And to get a cup of tea at morning and afternoon tea, I had to be rude and get up during the speakers, because the line hadn’t ended by the time morning tea was over.
I also came back depressed about being on blogger. I’ve looked at wordpress and don’t like it.
I have domain name for my main blog, so I guess the most important thing was getting another one.
And I just wish we all had time to talk, informally.
Someone suggested a get-together, with no speakers, just bloggers getting together for a night or two and socialising.
To be honest, I think we’d get a lot more from that than sitting there and listening to others talk.
My two cents worth.

Joni August 3, 2011 at 9:10 pm

Great honest feedback. I missed it and I’m reading about how it was so it was refreshing to read your honest observations.

Deb Wild Hope August 3, 2011 at 9:30 pm

I love your summary of the day! Love your honesty. I hope Nuffnang take on board your feedback. 🙂

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